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Post by PolarStarQuote on Mar 17, 2020 19:05:12 GMT -8
Hello once again! Next on White Listing:
Full Metal Alchemist has been Recognized as a Series that has reached white listability through Collaborations with Puzzle & Dragons, Valkyrie Anatomia, and most impressively, Final Fantasy! Specifically, Final Fantasy Brave Exvius. Also, fun Note, FMA Was originally published as a manga in a Square Enix Magazine! Aint that neat? As well, Lenneth Valkyrie, A Character Zero's been trying to make for a while now, Have met these characters! Hows that for Important?
Now, In these whitelist tests, we the staff need to see reasoning as to Why, or Why Not these characters should be added onto Li. We Primarily look for Aesthetical reasons 'Would these characters stand out/Look out of place on Li', 'Can these characters Add to Li and give Interesting materials for Li?', And of course 'Is this material suitable for Li.' Arguments for or Against, let us know here!
FMA has always had its toe in gaming and Nintendo especially, while there are some brutal parts to the series. Which I won't mention for obvious reasons, those aren't really a big issue and only occur to flavour the motivations of the characters within. I say they'd fit in well, in regards to their powers being fairly balanced in their canonical nature. Short of having the stone in their possession, they're required to balance out their moves. The only issue I'd say is more related to how the characters themselves would react to the strangeness that is Li, in relation to the nonhuman characters that exist within Li. Since they come from a fairly human-centred world with only Humunculi and chimeras as the only other types of folks, however, this would generally be more a personal reaction then anything game-breaking.
It would also depend on which version someone picks up a character from, given there are two interpretations of the FMA series. I'm uncertain which one the games follow and probably vary depending on when they were released and by whom. But I think they'd be able to fit into Li pretty easily, and might even help with disipline in some cases in a general sense or during missions depending on who comes into the board characters wise.
Post by Maverick Hunter Zero on Mar 17, 2020 19:42:12 GMT -8
Hoo boy, now I have reason to say that you guys will need to brush up on your Fullmetal Alchemist lore, this series is possibly one of the best I've seen.
And yes, only through the Valkyrie Anatomia x Fullmetal Alchemist crossover colab event did Lenneth meet both Edward and Alphonse Elric.
In terms of storyline, Ed and Al tried to perform the very forbidden art of Human Transmutation in an attempt to resurrect their dead mother, sadly and very horrifically, it failed. Edward Elric lost a leg, while Alphonse Elric lost his whole body, so Ed did what any brother would do and Transmute his brother's soul into a suit of armor, at the cost of his arm; setting up their quest to find the fabled Philosophers Stone in order to restore their bodies back to normal.
Along the way, Ed and Al enlist in the state military of Amestris with Ed becoming a State Alchemist, and setting him up for some adventure and peril, from stopping a corrupt priest named Cornello to halting a sinister plot orchestrated by the homunculi and their creator known simply as Father, they made friends both inside and out such as Roy Mustang, Alex Louis Armstrong and even an Ishvallan named Scar who was initially one of their enemies before learning the horrible truth that the Philosophers Stone would be made using human souls.
There are also a few games, one on the GBA that was not released outside of Japan, a DS game, and no less than two PlayStation 2 games including the aforementioned crossovers with mobile games.
I'm all for giving this series a shot, that way we can get some more representation, and maybe I can app the Alchemist Killer himself and add some items as well.
Again, I don't know much about the series, but simply from a design standpoint, I feel like the majority of these characters would fit. Now, that's definitely not a good reason to put them in, and I understand this series has some military references (if I'm understanding that?) which might put off some people. In it's favor, though, this scenario brings a sort of twist to Lucas and Claus's situation. Where one of the brother's is turned into a machine, but instead of becoming a brainless monster, he still retains that kind soul he had while he was a human. Again, if I understand correctly.
I haven't seen all of the series but I have seen enough to understand the basics. My concerns are the 7 Sins and how they would be apped. They have shown very powerful abilities that often break the boundaries of normal things. Envy for example placed a curse on an entire village that gave the people there a sickness that turned them to stone and they all died. Gluttony straight up eats people and no this isn't temporary, he tears them apart limb from limb and eats them. Pride made himself completely invincible with some weird body armor once too. That and the Philosopher's Stone. If it was made an item here it would allow people to do anything at all, anything for the cost of nothing. I don't think that would balance well on the site.
While I love FMA I can't see certain characters working well here such as the 7 Sins.
I wholly agree it should be implemented but with restrictions on what is appable and what items are used. That is all I will say on the matter.
Some Spoilers for Full Metal Alchemist will be in this post, as I feel they're important to address the points I want to make. Reader beware, as they involve the Philosopher's Stone.
While Alviss makes some good points, I'd like to address them, as I feel they forget the context of Li as a world. For a start, the 7 Sins as characters. There is absolute NOT a reason to prevent people from apping them. If you'll remember, people who are too strong in their home universe get nerfed upon arrival. So, as an example, Gluttony's ability to just eat whatever would probably take on a more Kirby like form, with him still being able to eat them temporarily, say for a buff, or take a bite out of them with his Acid teeth to cause a status effect. Or, as another example, Envy would probably have her ability reduced to being a 1 person status affect that lowers Dex or causes a stone status effect. Pride's armor would likely provide him with some kind of 3rd health bar that acts a Bubble Shield that's always active, but temporarily. Or, you could say the armor is Bubble Shield and he simply has limited access to it now. There's no reason whatsoever to stop people from making them. Spoilers below.
Secondly, the Philosopher's Stone. Let's take a moment to remember the lore of the world: There's only, according to I.O.N. as of now, 8000 people living in the Life Sphere. The one bastion of civilization on the planet. While that number could be used to create an impartial Philosopher's Stone to give Alchemists such as Ed a power buff, or create another intelligent Homonculus like the 7 Sins, you could NEVER create a proper Philosopher's Stone in this environment. There simply aren't enough living human souls running around. In order to come even close you'd need to wipe out the entirety of the Life Sphere's population. And with how many of the people in this population are powerful fighters and geniuses all worth their own salt, that quite simply isn't happening without outwitting the ENTIRE LIFE SPHERE in a short period of time, and even then you won't achieve the desired result! The only way you're ever getting a completed Philosopher's Stone in this environment is by having it fall through the cracks in space time already completed. And of course, The Chaos Emeralds canonically exist on Li, and I would argue that the stone is only at best on par with a single Chaos Emerald, and that's a high overshoot I'm giving it.
See, Alviss failed to say what it is the Philosopher's Stone actually does. Essentially, it's like a battery made out of human souls. In the FMA lore, it's believed to be capable of overriding the law of Equivalent Exchange when engaging in Alchemy. (The law essentially being that you need something of equal value to create something. You can't just take wood and make a TV out of it, you'd need all the components that make up a TV, as well as explicit knowledge on how a TV works.) This belief, is incorrect. It simply gives the appearance of such by using the Human Souls within a Philosopher's Stone for transmutation, as human souls have an absurdly high value that no physical material can match. This power, is limited, even in a complete Philosopher's Stone made up of hundreds of thousands, if not millions of humans souls. Where as as we all know, the Chaos Emeralds from Sonic are sources of nearly limitless energy. And we have several sets of the damn things running around! I feel this context is all very important to keep in mind before any decisions are made.
With all this said, I firmly believe FMA should be allowed, no holds barred.
Mar 19, 2020 16:52:12 GMT -8 by KashKey